Travis Sago

My personal help

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Yesterday, I hosted the final Q&A call for the last-ever live cohort of my Copy Riddles program. There were beers and tears involved (well, beers).

At the end of the call, I asked if anybody had any final comments or questions before we end. Shawn Cartwright, who runs the online martial arts school TCCII, spoke up to say:

“I really appreciate the comments and Q&A and the video. Will you consider doing an unlisted playlist so we can go back and take a look? It’s not just… I actually will go back and look at some of these.”

Like I told Shawn and the rest of the guys on the call, I definitely will create a playlist out of all the call recordings. And probably more.

The fact is, one of the reasons I did live Q&A calls for Copy Riddles is because people on such calls tend to ask good questions… and I tend to give good answers. And when I give a good answer to somebody else’s question, I often realize I am speaking to myself as much as to the person who asked the question.

My point is that we’re all talking about ourselves, all the time, regardless of what we appear to be saying on the surface.

That fact, if you choose to believe it, can be useful to you if you are listening to what your customers are saying, and if you want a better insight into who they are and what they want… and it can useful to you if you do like I do, and give advice to people, only to realize it’s advice you should be taking as well.

As I’ve heard marketer Sean D’Souza say, “If you wanna solve your own problems, go solve somebody else’s.”

Because of all this, I decided to bring back an offer I ran only ran once, last year, called Unstuck Sessions.

I got the idea for it from marketer Travis Sago.

In a nutshell:

If you’ve got a problem or a challenge, or if you’re stuck — in your financial situation, in your business, career, or life — maybe I can help you get unstuck?

I’ve long said that for a business owner, 60% of the value of bringing in a professional copywriter is the value of an outside perspective.

Something similar here.

The offer is, you and I get on a Zoom call and talk. I ask questions. You unburden yourself and vent. I spot and challenge assumptions you might not even realize you’re making.

The goal is to get you over your challenge and get you unstuck, ideally, in an easy and natural way, without having to simply grin and bear the pain of whatever you’re doing now until things change or get better or lighting strikes.

As for why you’d want me to help you get unstuck, I won’t try to convince you much there.

If you’ve been reading my emails, if you feel like I have knowledge or experience or simply a point of view that can be useful for you, then you’ll probably know if this is for you.

I’ll be doing four Unstuck Sessions over the next month. They will not be free, but will not be prohibitively expensive either.

If you’re interested, the first step is to hit reply and tell me who you are and in a sentence or two what you’re stuck with.

If it’s something I think I have anything meaningful and helpful to say, and if there are still any Unstuck Sessions left, we can the take it further. Thanks in advance.

New licensing marketplace

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Over the past year, I’ve gotten excited by the idea of licensing intellectual property, which I got turned on to by Travis Sago.

On the surface, licensing IP looks a lot like an affiliate promotion of an info product:

* You license the right to promote somebody else’s info product, such as a course

* You then sell that product to your own list, or to a list you control

* You get paid some or all of the sale price for the products you manage to sell, while the creator of the thing gets paid the rest

But licensing also has several advantages over familiar affiliate sales. For example, if you license the right to promote somebody else’s product, you typically:

1. Can bundle that product (with your own stuff, or with others’ products) and sell the bundle instead of the standalone product

2. Can put the offer inside your own funnel as an upsell, and sell it as a frictionless and congruent one-click addon at a time when people are already “in buy”

3. Can collect money today, as opposed to getting paid weeks or months later (particularly relevant if you’re running ads to your funnel)

… all of which you cannot do if you’re simply driving traffic to somebody else’s sales funnel.

And those are just a few of the benefits of licensing over affiliating.

Of course, licensing also has a shortcoming that affiliating doesn’t have.

Affiliating, at least in the world of online marketing, is a familiar model. Lots and lots of businesses publicly offer affiliate programs, and large and proven marketplaces like Commission Junction and Impact and in the last resort Clickbank exist to bring together affiliates and offers those affiliates can promote.

In contrast, for licensing, you gotta reach out to potential partners yourself… explain and persuade them to work with you… strike custom deals… and do all this one-on-one. Few businesses advertise they will license their info products to you even if they might be open to it, and no marketplaces exist to facilitate the thing.

Until now.

Well, maybe.

The news, at least news to me:

Russell Brunson, the guy behind funnel-building software ClickFunnels, is launching something called OfferLab.

At first blush, I thought OfferLab is just a new affiliate marketplace. But no.

OfferLab is in fact a new licensing marketplace, or something like it.

It allows you to create your own custom funnels where you plug in other people’s offers… or to make available your own info products for others to use in their own funnels. I don’t know exactly how flexible this is, but from what I’ve read it sounds to me it offers the 1-3 benefits of licensing I listed above.

Last night, I signed up for OfferLab myself to look around.

Even though OfferLab is only in launch, or prelaunch, there are already a bunch of offers inside. I imagine that’s because of Russell’s control of ClickFunnels, which will provide a steady fire hose of automatically added licensable offers to OfferLab, in addition to any other offers that people add if OfferLab as a platform actually takes off.

Right now, OfferLab is free to sign up for and, as far as I can tell, to use, both as an offer owner and as an affiliate/licensee.

I have no idea whether this thing will take off, but it is something legitimately new, and it does offer to solve a legitimate problem in the world, and that’s the clunkiness of making licensing deals.

If you’d like to try out OfferLab (again, free, at least right now), and maybe find a new way to promote your own info products… or to find new products you could sell, upsell, and bundle with other stuff:

https://bejakovic.com/offerlab

Masculine and feminine hitchhiking

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Here’s a bit of an allegory about life and marketing:

My friend Marci, part of the group of my long-time friends who assembled during my current visit to Stockholm, told a story of hitchhiking across Europe at age 20 or so.

Marci is from Hungary. At the time of this story, he was living in Budapest. As an adventure, he decided to hitchhike to Amsterdam.

(Of course, when Marci’s mom found out about this, she threatened, begged, and offered to bribe him with anything to keep him from carrying out his plans. “I’ll buy you a plane ticket,” she said. “You will get murdered.” “I’ll have a heart attack.” Marci, for his own reasons, refused to buckle and decided to go on with the hitchhiking.)

On day zero, Marci walked to a gas station where the town ends and the highway begins.

He positioned himself along the road where lots of traffic was passing. He held up his cardboard “Austrian border” sign to his chest. He smiled. And he started waiting…

And waiting…

And waiting.

Nobody was stopping to pick him up. Hours passed.

At some point, another dude on foot walked by. He saw Marci, and did a bit of a double-take.

“Have you ever hitchhiked before?” the dude asked. Marci admitted that he hadn’t.

“You won’t ever get picked up like that.” said the dude. “You have to go to the gas station and start asking people to take you.”

Marci, being new at all this, decided to follow the dude’s advice. So he went to the gas station.

It took him a long time to muster up the courage, but eventually he scoped out a couple that looked nice and friendly enough.

He jogged up to them and asked if they were going towards the Austrian border and could take him.

And… no.

Marci went back to stalking the gas station. It took more time to muster up more courage to ask somebody else. Once again no.

One more time… and another no.

After a half hour or so, Marci had managed to ask five prospects if they were headed his way and would give him a lift.

All said no.

Marci, learning his first lesson, went back to his spot near the highway.

As he was readjusting his cardboard sign for an optimal position on his chest, he spotted the dude who had earlier given him advice about approaching gas-pumping drivers and asking them for a lift.

The dude was lying in the grass and reading a book. And then, Marci saw the dude’s friends arrive. The dude jumped up from the grass, greeted his friends, and the lot of them headed towards the gas station.

They split up. They started instantly asking anyone and everyone who stopped to take them to just the next gas station down the road.

Within five minutes, as Marci looked over from behind his cardboard sign, the dude and his friends all hitched rides and were off.

I think you see where this is going.

The short and shorter of it is, Marci learned his second lesson. He swallowed his pride, went back to the gas station, and did as the dude did.

He asked anybody and everybody who stopped to take him to the next gas station. He got picked up soon enough.

It was the beginning of a long adventure that Marci still talks about fondly. But I won’t retell all that here. Really, as far as marketing goes, the part above is the relevant part.

It’s a kind of allegory for what I’ve heard described as “masculine mojo” versus “feminine mojo.”

Feminine mojo you are probably well familiar with.

It’s what Marci was doing from behind his cardboard sign. It’s also what blog posts are about… as well as Facebook and LinkedIn posts… and even emails like this one.

Masculine mojo, on the other hand, is more like what got Marci to Amsterdam.

It doesn’t necessarily involve going up to strangers, but it does require proactively approaching people, one by one, and asking if they will give you a lift — or a job, or their advice, or help, or whatever — and keeping at it until somebody says yes.

The point of this allegory is not that masculine mojo is better than feminine mojo, or the other way around.

My point is simply to remind you that these two poles exist. In many situations, a blend of both will give you the best results. And when one pole stops working, it’s almost certain that the other pole will work.

By the way, the terms “masculine mojo” and “feminine mojo” are ones I picked up from Travis Sago.

If you’ve been reading my emails for a while, you might get the sense I am about to plug Travis’s Royalty Ronin community, of which I am a member. And that would normally be true. Except, I got the following question from reader Michael Hinchliffe the last time I plugged Royalty Ronin:

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I have no idea what the Ronin thing is?!! Even after listening to Travis Sago yacking on, I’m none the wiser. What is it?

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At bottom, Royalty Ronin is a place to learn from Travis and to apply his ideas. The guy is as close to the second coming of Claude Hopkins as I’ve been able to find, and the results he gets and his students get back up my claim.

Beyond that, Ronin is a place where you can get access to all of Travis’s big courses on topics such as selling high-ticket offers ($5k-$50k) without sales calls and with email only… or partnering with business owners to take over and monetize their “trashcan assets”… or running communities on the back of an email list for quadruple the total value.

These courses, which have sold for a combined $12k in the past, are all available for free inside Royalty Ronin.

Finally, Royalty Ronin is also a place to partner with over 500 other business owners, marketers, copywriters, and investors, plus of course Travis himself.

Travis keeps fiddling with the front-end offer for Royalty Ronin.

There’s currently a free 7-day trial.

In the past, that trial has both appeared and disappeared. It’s not clear that, the next time this free trial disappears, it won’t disappear for good.

If you’d like to see for yourself what Travis is about, and why I keep recommending his Royalty Ronin community:

https://bejakovic.com/ronin

10 things I regret doing (or not doing) in my business

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Yesterday, I asked for questions I can answer in emails while I’m traveling, and questions I got.

Let me start from the beginning, from the first question that landed in my inbox yesterday, asked by a reader named Moeed:

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What are some things you regret doing in your business?

From when you started out till now.

It’d be great to know, like a list of things to avoid, no matter what.

And hi John, I love your daily emails, including all the promotions.

Thank you for all that you’ve done, you’ve helped me a lot as someone who’s young and obsessed with the world of Direct Response.

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On the one hand, I don’t really regret nothing, because I pretty much get to do what i want when I want, and I guess all the mistakes I’ve made got me here. But that’s not a fun email.

So let me regret some stuff. Here’s a list of 10 things I regret doing doing or not doing in my business:

1. Not continuing to find more revshare partners after I realized how much money one good revshare partner could make me, and after running into a bit of an obstacle finding more such partners

2. Not repurposing my content better

3. Not charging higher prices or capping the prices I was willing to charge (both for services and for info products)

4. Setting prices based on what I felt comfortable charging, rather than on what this could be worth to the buyer or what they would be willing to pay

5. Not listening to Travis Sago ideas sooner, or paying him to find out his full systems like Phoneless Sales Machine and BEAMER, and applying that to what I was doing both for myself and for others

6. Thinking that the only way I can communicate with my readers is via broadcast, or maybe over 1-on-1 email, instead of regularly reaching out to some of them to suggest getting on a call

7. Launching stuff without validating demand

8. Launching stuff after I attempted to validate demand and was told explicitly by the market that there was no demand for what I wanted to launch

9. In general, coming upon obstacles and saying, let me turn back or simply sit here instead of looking for ways over, under, through, or around the obstacle

10. Thinking that the only options are either do everything myself or hire others to do it for me.

And now, for my offer:

In regret 5 above, I say I regret not listening to Travis Sago or paying him earlier.

The fact is, the remaining 9 of my 10 regrets would have been reduced or maybe even eliminated had I not only stalked Travis Sago online for years, but had I gladly and unquestioningly paid him a few thousand dollars for his programs, and had I started implementing those programs in my “business” earlier.

All of that is a warm introduction to and endorsement for Travis Sago’s community, Royalty Ronin, which I am member of, and which gives you access to all of Travis’s programs, along with contact with Travis himself, plus over 500 online business owners, investors, and marketers.

At the moment there’s even a free 7-day trial for Royalty Ronin. If you want to avoid making the same mistakes I made, I highly recommend Ronin:

https://bejakovic.com/ronin

What everybody ought to know… about this online investor business

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This morning, I was sitting in a noisy cafe with music playing and coffee machines steaming away and a lampshade swinging above my head in the breeze. Amid all this confusion, I was trying to focus. I was looking for offers to promote.

I have several new and interesting offers slated for the next days and weeks. But what for today?

One of my go-tos on days like today is Travis Sago’s Royalty Ronin community, which I lurk, learn, and even occasionally participate in.

Being in Ronin and following Travis’s advice has made me tens of thousands of dollars over the past 18 months that I’ve been subscribed to it, via new offers I’ve made, and via making me more money out of offers I already have. That’s why I keep recommending Ronin in my emails whenever I have a bit of a chance.

So this morning, I went to check out the Ronin front page.

In the past, Travis ran a free trial offer for Ronin. It makes sense to do a free trial because Ronin is 1) expensive ($299/month) and 2) a monthly charge (which everyone hates, including people who can afford it).

For a long time, that free trial offer was the norm.

But then, at odd times, including times when I promoted Ronin previously, it turned out that the free trial had disappeared. Then it came back. Then it disappeared again. Then the price dropped. Then it went back to normal. I guess Travis is constantly experimenting with the offer.

Today, when I thought of promoting Ronin, I went to check what the current front page looks like.

At first, I was confused. Then shocked.

It turns out there’s no free trial at the moment. Ok.

It turns out the price is the usual $299/month. Ok.

What had me confused and shocked is that right now, the entire Ronin community is open.

You can see all the members inside, read all their posts, as well as the comments.

You can see the “Welcome! START HERE!” post, which links to the “8-Day New Ronin Action Plan,” which is also currently open to everyone. You can see Travis’s advice on topics like partner getting, licensing, and “coffee dates,” and how to do that in just the next few days.

The only stuff that remains restricted, unless you’re actually a paying Ronin member, is the courses area, which contains about a dozen specialized trainings. Plus you don’t get access to the Royalty Ronin bonuses, which is a library of Travis’s courses that adds up to $12k in real-world value. And of course, you can’t participate or post in the community, but only observe and read.

This extra stuff is definitely worth paying for. But even without it, there’s enough valuable info inside the freely available Ronin community to fill a few airplane hangars with.

At least for the moment.

The current “everything in the open” offer might be a glitch. Maybe it will disappear very soon.

Maybe. Or maybe it’s just old-school marketing.

I remember a long time ago Andre Chaperon talking about lead magnets you didn’t have to sign up for.

Andre would simply lay out the entire, high-value lead magnet on his web site as a web page. He would then have an optin at the end of all that for the people who had gone to the trouble of reading the whole thing, which, unsurprisingly, turned out to be very high-quality leads.

Of course, there’s nothing new under the sun, and Andre didn’t invent this strategy.

It goes back millions of years, back to when brontosauruses ran direct-response weight-loss offers in the Jurrasic Times.

A little more seriously, it goes back at least to the 1940s, and the famous “What everybody ought to know… About This Stock and Bonds Business” ad.

That ad ran in major newspapers across the country. It featured 6,000 densely packed words of info and education about stocks and bonds, and a buried offer at the end, which drew tons of highly qualified leads for Merryl Lynch for over 10 years.

I thought about how to adapt that headline to the currently open Royalty Ronin community.

“What everybody ought to know about…”

I tried out different angles.

Eventually I remembered something Travis repeats over and over in Ronin, about how he really doesn’t have any ambition to be an entrepreneur or business owner. Running a business day after day is not for him, he says.

Rather, his goal is to be an investor, somebody who makes small bets that don’t cost much if they don’t pay off, but that have unlimited upside and the potential to pay him for years to come if they do work out.

Specifically, Travis talks about about how to be an online investor, making small bets on your own online products or audiences, or those of others.

And if you have no money to invest? That’s okay. Travis also talks about how you can invest other things, like your resourcefulness, your willingness to make connections, or your skills and expertise.

In any case, if you want to know what everybody ought to know about this online investor business, here’s an incredible free resource for you:

https://bejakovic.com/ronin

Millionaire math used by the wealthiest people, but not me

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Yesterday morning, my time, I concluded the “Unannounced Bonus” promo I had been running all past week.

As usual, the final day of the promo was an exhausting barrage of emails.

The last thing I wanted to do yesterday was to think or write more about that promo or how it went.

But today, I did what I usually do and looked at my “Unannounced Bonus” promo — how it went, how it compared to previous promos, what I can learn.

Let me shoo the elephant out of the closet right away, and make the gray beast dance:

This “Unannounced Bonus” promo made fewer sales of Copy Riddles, across 7 days, than I made last year during the last promo I ran for CR, which I called the “White Tuesday” promo, and which lasted just 2 days.

Before you either feel too bad for me or start to maliciously gloat, let me say that the “White Tuesday” promo surprised even me by how well it did.

And though the “Unannounced Bonus” promo did less than that, it still made more in a week than I would likely be making in a month if I had a proper job. It also paid me an effective per-email rate that’s many hundreds of dollars higher than I was making back at the peak of my freelance copywriting career.

But, with all that self-reassuring done, the fact remains I made fewer sales now, over 7 days, than last year, over 2 days.

What’s going on?

I made a list of 10 possible explanations for myself. All of them are legit, and all possibly contributed. But there’s one big one that stands out to me, and that I want to highlight to you too:

During the “White Tuesday” promo last year, part of the offer was a payment plan for Copy Riddles.

95% of people who bought during that promo took the payment plan.

During the “Unannounced Bonus” promo that just ended, part of the offer was once again a payment plan for Copy Riddles.

But just 33% of people who bought during this promo took the payment plan.

The difference is that this time, I was partnering with Lawrence Bernstein, and offering a lifetime subscription to his Ad Money Machine as a bonus for Copy Riddles. (And vice versa — Lawrence was also promoting the offer to his list.)

Due to the uniqueness of this arrangement, I agreed with Lawrence we’d offer the same payment plan as he offered the last time he made the offer of a lifetime subscription for Ad Money Machine…

… which, as I said, 33% of buyers ended up finding enticing.

On the other hand, last year, I followed a very specific payment plan philosophy. 95% of people found that payment plan enticing, and much more importantly, a greater total number of sales came out of it.

Maybe you remember what the payment plan was that I offered for White Tuesday. If not, my emails are all archived on my site, and you can find the campaign there. You can look it up, and see what the exact payment plan was.

But I’ll tell you one thing:

Even if you know the specifics of what I did publicly, you’re unlikely to glean the underlying payment plan philosophy, or the most exciting and valuable marketing trick resulting from that philosophy, which is applied behind the scenes.

I’ll tell you a second thing:

The payment plan philosophy I followed last year came from a 13-minute video by Travis Sago, titled “Millionaire Math Used by the Wealthiest People.”

If you’ve already taken me up on my recommendation to sign up for Travis’s Royalty Ronin community (I myself am a paying member), then you can find this 13-minute video as a bonus inside the Phoneless Sales Machine course, which normally sells for $2,000, and which Travis gives away as a free bonus for those who are in Royalty Ronin.

If you haven’t taken me up on my recommendation to sign up for Travis’s Royalty Ronin community, then I can only tell you Royalty Ronin is expensive. Very expensive. Particularly if you sign up and do nothing with the information.

On the other hand, if you are selling offers online — specifically, info products like courses or ebooks — and if you apply just this one idea from Travis about payment plans, it could well be worth thousands of dollars to you by the end of this week alone, and much, much more in the coming weeks, months, and years.

If you want to invest in a month of Ronin, and see how quickly and thoroughly you can make your money back:

https://bejakovic.com/ronin

How to turn $99 courses into $999 offers

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Wouldn’t it be wonderful to have a magic spell that turns plain, small, $29 or $99 courses into shiny, exciting, $299 or $999 offers?

The past week, I’ve been trawling the Royalty Ronin community, of which I am a paying member.

I found a curious and old post inside. A lightbulb came on. I had actually written an email on the exact same topic, back in 2021, as a kind of joke, talking about repositioning physical products.

Here’s what I wrote back then:

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If you sell dog clippers today and nobody’s buying, then bundle your clippers with a video. Tell people how to set up their own dog grooming business in their back yard in their spare time.

Charge 10x what the clippers cost… and find yourself in a marketplace of one, instead of a commodity market.

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I suffer from what is known as “copywriter brain,” which is limited in its thinking and reach.

It takes “marketing and business brain” to take the above idea seriously and see its full potential, particularly when applied to info products.

And that’s exactly what I found in that post inside Royalty Ronin. This post talked about this same idea, and it gave a real example involving Travis Sago (the guy who runs Royalty Ronin).

Travis took a course that sold well for $99 and transformed it, successfully and ethically, into a $999 offer that also sold well.

The point being, you don’t have to start from scratch.

If you want to create a big-ticket offer, this doesn’t mean you need big new course content, a big new topic, a big new mechanism.

You can take what you already have, even if it’s only selling now for $29 or $99 or whatever, and reposition it so it becomes a genuine big-ticket offer.

But what if you don’t have even a $29 or $99 offer right now?

That’s ok. Millions of other people do have such offers. And you can start a profitable repositioning business, with your own home as headquarters, by helping such people turn their $29 offers into $299 offers and their $99 offers into $999 offers.

If you want more info or advice or support on how to do all this, then you might be a good fit for Royalty Ronin.

You can sign up for a trial below and see for yourself if it’s for you.

If you do sign up, forward me your welcome email (the one that says “Vroom” in the subject line). I’ll then tell you where to find the post I mentioned above, which lays out how Travis repositions his $99 courses into $999 offers. Here’s the link:

https://bejakovic.com/ronin

The inspiration for my concluded “Buy 5 paperbacks” promo

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This morning at 9am Central Europe Time, I concluded my Buttered-Up Bonus Bundle promo, which has been running since Monday.

As a result of this promo, I sold a couple hundred paperback copies of my original 10 Commandments book. I had multiple people who bought tell me they will use the books as giveaways to their own lists. I got a big jump in Amazon rankings.

Altogether, I call it a success.

I did this promo as a bit of an experiment. I wanted to see if it would work for me. I’m happy with how it went, so I will repeat it, some time down the line, with new bonuses, for my new 10 Commandments book.

Over the past few days, a few people wrote me to say this was an original and interesting promo and offer. And one reader wrote in to ask, “Are you doing a version of Daniel Throssell’s book launch?”

No, Daniel was not the inspiration for this promo. For one thing, it was hardly a book launch — my original 10 Commandments book has been out for 5+ years. More importantly, I don’t even know what Daniel’s book launch strategy is.

That said, my book promo/offer was not original. I copied it exactly from what I saw another marketer doing.

I knew odds were excellent it would to work for me also, because I saw it worked very well for this other marketer.

In fact, this other marketer got me to buy five paperback copies of his book, which are still sitting in their Amazon box, collecting dust, on a shelf right across from the couch where I’m writing this email right now.

I bought those five copies in exchange for a bonus that the marketer was offering, which got me intrigued and which I wanted to get.

And that’s my meta-lesson for you today:

Lots of people are out there sharing marketing how-tos and tutorials and ideas, including in free newsletters like this one.

Maybe all those tutorials and ideas are proven advice. Or maybe they’re not.

But there is a whole other class of marketing and money-making education, which is 100% proven, and which you’ve already paid for, so you might as well get use out of it.

I’m talking about all the offers — books, courses, back scratchers — that got you to buy, and the process by which some marketer or business owner got you to buy them.

Keep a track of those offers and those sales processes. And ask yourself, what did it? Get to the core. Then apply it to what you do. Odds are excellent it will work for you as well.

In case you’re curious, I can tell you that the marketer I imitated for my Buttered-Up Bonus Bundle was Travis Sago.

Some time last year, Travis made people an offer to buy five paperback copies of his book Make ‘Em Beg To Buy From You on Amazon. In return, he would give you a bonus called Shogun Traffic Method, about a source of traffic that converts for any niche or offer, starting at $50 or less.

I had a pretty good idea already of what the Shogun Traffic Method was. But I’ve learned a ton from Travis before, and I decided it was a worthwhile investment. Plus, he piled bonuses on top of his bonuses — including some that were even more intriguing than the core Shogun Traffic Method itself.

As far as I know, Travis ran this promo only within his Royalty Ronin community.

It’s another good reason to be inside Royalty Ronin. Not only is this a community of 500+ Internet marketers who are doing creative deals, often starting from nothing… not only do you get Travis’s ongoing education and inspiration and advice in the community… not only is there a library of Travis’s expensive courses and bonuses (including the Shogun Traffic Method)… but you get to see Travis running creative new promos himself.

The bad news is, that means Travis might get you yet again, so you pay him for something on top of the already expensive $299 that Royalty Ronin costs each month.

The good news is, if you do find yourself paying Travis for something new, you’ve likely just learned a valuable new way to sell (most of Travis’s promos are creative and new in some form or another). You now have a new strategy you can profit from, if you only apply it to what you do.

That’s likely to pay for that new offer you just bought, and maybe even for a few months of Royalty Ronin itself.

If you want to find out more about Royalty Ronin, or maybe give it a try yourself:

https://bejakovic.com/ronin

Dark marketplace for courses

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I just bought a course, based solely on the glowing recommendation of somebody I’ve come to trust and respect.

The course is made up of five actual, physical books. It costs $300.

Since the seller is only willing to ship in the U.S., I will need to have these five books shipped to my friend’s post office box in South Carolina, and then pay more to have them forwarded on to me in Spain.

The whole process to order this course has taken about three weeks. The seller has no website, no phone number, no email address publicly listed.

And in case you’re wondering, there are no copies of the course available on Amazon or eBay or other popular “web sites.”

(After this course was recommended by somebody I’ve come to trust and respect in a semi-public setting, I saw someone on Twitter asking how and where to get this course. There were no responses.)

The way I managed to get this course is I remembered a copywriter who mentioned he had worked with the creator of the course. I contacted the copywriter. He put me in touch with the family of the guy who created the course.

Then it was back and forth over email with the daughter of the course creator for a couple weeks, with each back-and-forth taking another few days.

Finally, I made the payment last Friday. I had hoped to hear that the course has been shipped, but the weekend passed. Yesterday, I got a message from the daughter. She wrote:

“Hope you had a great weekend. Thanks for sending the PayPal; I received it and have the package ready. I forgot to ask earlier: Are you interested in other courses that I have…”

… and here followed a list of about 15 more attractive-sounding courses, at least going by titles alone, because that’s all there was. No price, no details, no sales page, no order form. That’s the upsell process. And thanks to this upsell process, it will be another few days before my course is shipped.

I’m not telling you this to complain. I’m happy to get this course and amused by the ordering process.

I am telling you this because, while you might not realize it, there’s a dark marketplace for courses. “Dark” as in “dark web,” the web that’s not accessible publicly or at least searchable by Google and Perplexity.

The fact is, there are billions of dollars’ worth of info products that are not sold on Clickbank, or eBay, or Amazon, or on anybody’s website.

Maybe these info products were created before the web and are simply sitting in a garage or warehouse, in book format or on tapes or DVDs.

Or maybe these info products were online once. But the hosting expired. Or they were a one-time offer. Or the creator simply moved on to other things, and the only place are now is on somebody’s hard drive.

Or maybe these info products are available online, but not publicly. Maybe they are simply sold via backchannels, to people who are on private email lists, or inside private communities, or only to people who know somebody who knows somebody.

To be fair:

Not everything that’s old is gold, and not everything that’s hidden is worth uncovering.

But there is gold, and a lot of it, among the many info products in the dark marketplace.

This is a legit opportunity, for anybody who has the digging instinct, and a bit of marketing and copywriting chops. To wit:

You can find these dark market info products, and simply sell them as-is to a new audience…

Or you can convert them to a new, more accessible format…

Or you can repackage and rebrand them into an offer of your own, while paying the original creator a licensing fee.

If any of this gets you excited, and you’re thinking “Oh if only there were more info on how to do all this,” well, then you’re in luck. This is the kind of stuff that’s taught, discussed, and practiced inside Travis Sago’s Royalty Ronin community.

Travis happens to be the person who recommended the course that I ended up buying, based on his recommendation alone. That’s because I happen to be a member of Royalty Ronin, and while I’m not very publicly active there, I do lurk and absorb information and even put it to use.

As I’ve written before, at $300 per month, Royalty Ronin is expensive. But at least in my case, it has paid for itself many times over.

If you’re curious about profiting from the dark marketplace for courses, but hesitant to risk $300 to test out Ronin for a month, then you’re in luck once again. Because Travis is currently offering a week’s trial of Royalty Ronin for free.

If you’d like to join me inside and see if it’s for you:

https://bejakovic.com/ronin

Offer

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A few days ago, I was listening to a call put on by Internet marketer Travis Sago.

I’ve promoted Travis heavily over the past couple months as an affiliate for his Royalty Ronin community, which I am a member of and happily pay for.

In case you somehow missed all that promotion, the background on Travis is that he used to have a big Clickbank business in the relationship niche.

He then started working with other online business owners to help them pull more money out of their own customer lists. He made millions for them and for himself doing this. He eventually started teaching other marketers how to do the same.

Travis also happens to be a master of email copy. I always describe him as a “nice guy Ben Settle.” Travis is the one who first turned me on to the power of insight in marketing, because he both teaches it and practices it.

Anyways, in that call I was listening to, Travis said the following about the kinds of emails his list likes the best:

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I see this in email lists too. They’re like, “Oh, I’ve gotta keep giving them amazing content all the time.”

My best stuff, what people people like best, is when I make offers.

Now you have to wrap — ever pill a dog? You have to put the pill in some cheese, right?

But they love it. I think people want to solve problems.

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Maybe Travis’s “pill a dog” analogy doesn’t read very elegantly here in a transcript. It sounds cuter in the live call with Travis’s perpetually cheery voice saying it.

In any case, taking a cue from Travis, I got an offer for you today.

Last year, Travis wrote a book called Make ‘Em Beg To Buy From You. That books sells for $9.99 on Amazon right now. It’s frankly a steal, because it contains large and key excerpts from Travis’s $2k course Phoneless Sales Machine, which is all about how to persuade people to buy expensive offers in the most efficient and easy way possible.

So, $9.99 on Amazon right now, and worth much more than that.

But I got a deal for you:

I made an agreement with Travis, and you can get a free copy of his Make ‘Em Beg To Buy From You (in PDF format) if you have already bought my new 10 Commandments book. Just sign up to get the “apocryphal Commandment XI” (link at the end of my new 10 Commandments book) and follow the instructions at the bottom of that extra chapter.

And if you haven’t yet gotten a copy of my new 10 Commandments book, you can do so here:

https://bejakovic.com/new10commandments