Do not create a course and do not build an audience

Yesterday, a friend texted me with a screenshot of an Instagram account of a duo of “Instagram & social media experts.”

“Do you know them?” my friend asked. “They create a course on how to create digital courses and sell them.”

I groaned and replied that I had never heard of these particular experts.

My friend was not happy with that response. She called me up right away. She explained how she was just on a webinar for this course and how it sounds like a good deal. It’s not so expensive (only 500 GBP), plus they really walk you through the whole thing, plus you can license their course and resell it.

“And they live in Bali!” my friend said, like it’s a proof element, rather than a red flag.

Fortunately, my friend lives in London and knows a million and one successful, accomplished, and rich people.

“There’s this nutritionist I know,” she said. “She has a lot of work but it’s all one-on-one. She actually asked me if I wanted to be her business partner, and do something online. Maybe I could create a course with her teaching what she knows?”

Finally a bit of sense in this conversation.

I’m gonna tell you what I told my friend, my best advice for how to launch an info biz for someone like her.

I’ll tell you this because it equally applies to someone like me or maybe you, if you are already somewhat established in a niche but thinking of doing something entirely new. Here’s what I told my friend:

1. If you really want to do this, then partner with the nutritionist woman. She’s the expert and she already has clients. That means she has knowledge and case studies. She can deliver the actual information and service. You can focus on the marketing and business stuff.

2. Do not create a course. A course takes between 6 weeks and 6 years to complete, and if you’re just getting started, odds are that it will be on the 6 years side.

3. Instead, create a live training based on information the nutritionist’s clients are already paying for. A live training is a very forgiving format to deliver information, and it has high perceived value. You can do it next week since the woman already knows the material, and you can run it with minimal infrastructure (Zoom and a clean t-shirt will do, pants not required). Plus, you can charge a good amount right out the gate because of the live, personalized feel.

4. Do not build an audience. An audience takes between 6 weeks and 6 years to build, and if you’re just getting started, odds are that it will be on the 6 years side.

5. Instead, reach out to people you know more or less personally, and ask them if they want to sign up to your training. (Like I said, my friend knows a lot of people socially in London, and from previous places she’s lived, jobs she’s worked at, schools she’s attended. Plus the nutritionist has her past clients list and her entire professional network. If, by a bit of social media posting and a few texts and DMs, they cannot get 10 women to sign up for their training, then the problem is with the training, and no amount of audience will fix that.)

6. Once you run that live training, you can run it again, each month, and for more money. Or you can polish it up and turn it into a course, except now it’s more likely to take 6 weeks than 6 years to complete.

I normally wouldn’t plop down a bowl of steaming how-to porridge right in front of you like this. It’s not good manners.

But this is a big weekend for me. I have a book to publish, an optin funnel to create (I bought a newsletter ad that’s due to run tomorrow, unrelated to the book), a lead magnet to write for that funnel, a gym to go to, and forced socializing to do (ahem, read the new book for that).

That also means I have nothing to promote to you today.

I prefer to build up your eagerness for my new book which will be published… imminently. I’ll have more information on that soon.

But if you absolutely need something to do with the energy that’s built up by reading this email, then go and implement the plan I’ve listed above.

Or if you already have a working business and you don’t want to get distracted, then forward my email to a competitor with a note that says, “Thought you might like this.” Maybe they will get distracted and go build a new info product business and move to Bali and stop competing with you. And if that happens, you can thank me by buying a copy of my new book.

Indecent proposal

Last week, I wrote an email with the subject line “Operation Mincemeat.” At the end of that email, I asked readers if they have an audience to which they could promote my new 10 Commandments book.

I also said I don’t know what I can do in turn for those who promote me, but that I am happy to entertain all kinds of offers.

I got a lot of readers replying to say they would be happy to promote me to their lists. I appreciate everyone who wrote in.

Some people said they would do it without asking anything in turn, simply because I’m such a swell guy.

Others made me various decent and indecent proposals. Here’s one I got from James Carran, who writes several newsletters about the craft and business of writing:

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How about later in the year when I get a chance to polish them up, you take a gander at my course library and see if there’s one you’d like to promote as an affiliate? I just want to redesign them all and update them first…

With the proviso that you’d only promote anything if you thought it was genuinely helpful for your people and something you’d want to promote anyway. If not, I’ll take no offence.

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I’m bringing this up because James’s proposal is one that I wish more people would make me, all the time, whether or not they agree to promote my new book.

So let me explicitly make you my own proposal, which you may deem indecent, but which you probably won’t, because I’m really fishing here so I can pay off the subject line:

If you have a course, and you would love to have me promote your course to my audience, then write in and let me know.

A few points that will make it more likely for me to take you seriously:

1. Your course is amazing and previous customers love it

2. Your course is based on a new mechanism for an old promise (hat tip to Justin Goff for that idea — whatever happened to him)

3. Your course sells for at least $197, or you’d be okay raising the price to that level

If you have a course that matches these three criteria, or at least two out of three and you can compensate for the third with your own enthusiasm and force of personality, then write in and let me know.

I’m not promising anything. But I am always short of good offers to promote, and if you have an amazing course that I can get behind, then you’d be doing me a favor.

Cooling out course buyers

A reader named Tom (not sure he wants me to share his last name) replied to my email yesterday with a thoughtful comment that could make somebody good money:

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I was reading today’s email about the customer who wanted the refund, and I started wondering if maybe there was a simple fix that could have saved you, him, and the people you were promoting for a lot of hassle.

Direct response teaches all these ways to build trust, harness momentum, overcome objections, frame value, reverse risk, etc, but I don’t see anywhere near as much focus on post-purchase persuasion – the buyer’s remorse mitigation bit where you tell them “you made a good decision – you weren’t duped.”

This is especially important for anything relatively high-ticket that needs a lot of persuasive leverage to get to over the line, and I think for those guys the hand holding and reassurance is not only more necessary, but probably has a lot of surplus value.

I think of it as “warming down” from a very emotionally charged, high-energy conversion ramp. As a copywriter you get so used to pushing the buttons and architecting the momentum that it’s easy to lose sight of what an emotionally and cognitively demanding experience the conversion process can be for the prospect (as in it uses emotional and cognitive resources, not that it’s high friction).

For me at least the takeaway is that the post-purchase excitation window is one of the most vulnerable and high-intensity moments of the entire arc, and that stepping in at that point (in the right way) can be one of the most valuable forms of nurture out there. By properly architecting a post-purchase nurture/wind down sequence, even for affiliate sales, you can 1. avoid refunds/months of avoidable back-and-forths 2) feel better about the sale (happy customers etc), 3. build trust, rapport and good will in a way that increases engagement, sales, and LTV of your list.

Anyway, I’m not sure I’m not stating the painfully obvious, but as I read today’s email that jumped out, and I thought I’d try and articulate it.

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As you might or might not know, since I’ve only mentioned the fact about 14 million times, I’m about to publish a book about the commonalities between con men, pickup artists, copywriters, etc.

I bring this up 1) to build a bit more buzz about the book and 2) because Tom’s use of the term “warming down” to describe a process for avoiding a post-purchase blowup.

Con men, who have more skin in the game than most copywriters, particularly more than freelance copywriters who work on one-off projects, call this process “cooling out a mark.”

Con men know that when you get somebody’s money, there’s still work to be done, so that the mark doesn’t go to the police. Crazy thing is it can be done. A mark in a good con doesn’t go to the police because he doesn’t even realize he’s been conned.

I’m not advising you to fleece, scam, or con people. I am advising you to take common human psychology seriously.

Like Tom writes above, we — marketers, copywriters, online business owners — have all learned how to amp and rile people up emotionally, up to the point where a sale is made.

We might think that, since we sell good products, ones as advertised, a sale is really all we need to do. Once people are faced with the good product — ta da!

Except what you sell, good or bad, is secondary, while what your customer feels and perceives is primary.

Tom gives some good ideas for how to “cool out” your course buyers so they don’t end up regretting the emotional spike that led them to a purchase.

I’ll give you one more idea, which is simpler and more universal.

It’s simply to keep writing daily emails, in which you inevitably keep promoting the same offer in new ways.

Ongoing daily emails resell people on what they bought, encourage them to actually dip in and consume it and benefit from it, and show you’re not a con man who is simply presenting a sexy front so you can swipe people’s money and then run to the horse track to gamble it all away.

So this entire email is really for the people who already subscribe to my Daily Email Habit service. If you needed one more reason to write daily emails, or to benefit from Daily Email Habit, or to believe in me as somebody who is looking to help you, then you’ve got it.

And if you’re not a Daily Email Habit subscriber, but you can see the value of sending daily emails, then here’s how to do it more quickly and easily:

https://bejakovic.com/deh

The day after

Yesterday around 1pm, I finished writing my Daily Email Habit puzzle and was about to upload it to Kit. But my Internet had stopped working. The odd thing was I checked my phone, and not just the wifi was down, but it looked like the cellular network, too.

I shrugged and went to take a nap because… I live in Spain.

I woke up twenty minutes later. The Internet was still down. I looked inside the fridge to see if there was anything interesting happening there. It was dark. Aha. The power was out.

I opened the the circuit breaker box — all the circuit breakers were fine. I opened the front door of my apartment. The hallway outside was dark except for the emergency light.

Ok. So the power is out in the entire building. There was a notice a few days ago about some utilities work being done, maybe this was it.

I decided to go to the gym, because there was nothing else to do. The elevator wasn’t working so I took the stairs. On my way down, I passed a couple with a baby who were climbing up. The woman was carrying the baby, while the guy, panting, was carrying the stroller. Lucky for them, they live on just the second floor (the building has 12).

As I stepped out into the sunshine, I saw a bunch of people standing around on the street and talking. All stores, restaurants, and banks were dark and empty. I guess the was power out everywhere in my neighborhood?

I passed by a local brunch place. The waitress was explaining to the guests, “It’s everywhere! My boyfriend in Madrid says it, there’s no connection anywhere.”

I got to the gym, which was dark, silent, and full of people. I did my workout among suppressed grunts and increasingly stifling air (the AC wasn’t working).

I heard one of the trainers explain to somebody that this power outage is happening “en toda España.” Somebody else said Portugal too. Others were saying it’s in France and Italy as well (turned out to be exaggerations).

I walked back home. Drivers were carefully stopping at every zebra and intersection because the stoplights weren’t working either.

The streets were packed with people. Neither the metros nor trams were running. The whole city seemed to be either standing on the streets or walking home because no work could be done. An alarming number of women were sitting on park benches and reading books.

Convenience stores were the only thing that was somewhat open. Each one had a queue of people waiting at the front door. The store owners were letting in people one by one to do basic shopping if they could pay in cash.

As tends to happen, the sun started to set. I went for a walk and saw firefighters in front of a pharmacy beating down the rolling security shutter. It must run on electricity. I guess the firefighters were trying to close it by force for the pharmacists, to prevent a breakin at night.

I stood on my balcony as night fell. I was looking forward to seeing the city in total darkness for once. But it wasn’t to happen.

It turned out some buildings still had electricity — the fire station next door, various hotels, an entire neighborhood off on the hillside.

Still, Avinguda Diagonal, the main artery next to my house, was almost entirely dark. So was my little street. My own apartment was even darker.

I made a salad for dinner — the only food I had left in the house that didn’t require a stove to prepare. I had to move the cutting board to the window because the counter where I normally work was so dark I was afraid I would chop off a finger tip while slicing the cherry tomatoes.

By around 9:30pm, my apartment was like a cave. There was no Internet and I had switched off my phone earlier to conserve the battery. I lay on the couch and turned on the backlight on my Kindle to read in darkness.

Around 10pm, I heard cheering and clapping outside. A neighboring block had gotten its power back. But my block and most other blocks around me were still in the dark.

I went to bed around 10:30pm, feeling exhausted. I guess following the natural light cycle does that to you.

And then, some time during the night, I’m guessing around 2am, I woke up to loud beeping. My fridge was back and it was helpfully signalling that the temperature of the freezer was dangerously high.

All that’s to say, as of this morning, everything’s normal once again, and without even an interruption in my daily email cadence.

I have to admit I was actually looking forward to the possibility of a continuing power outage, and to having a proper, unavoidable excuse to not writing my daily email today. What would that be like? I’ve been writing a daily email for years now, every day, without fail. I was excited by the prospect of change. That’s something for me to think about.

Meanwhile, I can tell you that the curious day yesterday reminded me of a curious book I’d read two years ago. In fact, this book was the first book of my year-long Insights & More Book Club, which brought together a few of my readers specifically to read books that offered a mind-bending new perspective.

The first book of the book club fit the bill.

Even though the book is 100 years old, it was written in a particularly interesting and influential style, which I think can be relevant for anyone writing online today.

It also did lead me to moment of real insight, a perspective shift, which sticks with me to this day. I mean, even to yesterday, when I was really thinking about it.

If you’re curious, you can find the book, or maybe even read it yourself, at the following convenient link:

https://bejakovic.com/masses

“… which is really important yada yada”

Yesterday, I made available my 3rd Conversion training for 36 hours. It’s about how to get people to consume and implement your info product, so they actually get value out of it beyond just the thrill of a purchase, and so they tell others about you, and buy more stuff when you create it.

Today, I got a question about 3rd Conversion from a course creator:

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I have just rewritten all my course slides and gearing up to rerecord them and to then release V2.

One of the things I’ve done is finish every lesson with a hook for the next lesson.

So something like “but what we haven’t covered is this and that which is really important yada yada. That’s what we’ll look at next, see you there.

Is this the sort of thing your training teaches? But many other tips like that?

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I don’t wanna razz this course creator because what he describes is endemic, and I too have been guilty of it.

But if you care about creating long-term customers from one-time buyers, and you want people to consume your info product, and get value from it, it takes active thought and work.

Just piling up a bunch of solid info, and at the end of it effectively saying, “…and there’s more, and it’s really important yada yada,” is typically too little, too loose, too late.

That’s not to say that “handing people IOUs,” as I like to call it, is never a good idea. But:

1. There are better places to hand out IOUs than at the end of a lesson

2. There’s more important stuff to do at the end of a lesson than to hand out an IOU

I’ve only made 3rd Conversion available once before, as a live training last November. To the people who took me up on that training, I also gave a free bonus document that I called, “Encyclopedia of Consumption & Digestion, 1st edition.”

This “Encyclopedia” includes 19 techniques for encouraging consumption and digestion, along with descriptions and illustrations of each technique, some of which I went over during the live training, some of which I didn’t.

I can tell you that technique #14 talks specifically about giving out IOUs… while technique #17 and #19 are about more important stuff to do at the end of a lesson, at least if you want to encourage consumption and implementation.

If you’ve already gotten 3rd Conversion from me, you will find the “Encyclopedia of Consumption & Digestion, 1st edition” as a bonus in the course area.

And if you haven’t yet gotten 3rd Conversion, you still have a few hours to get it and the bonus “Encyclopedia of Consumption & Digestion,” until 12 midnight PST, tonight.

This will be the last email I send about it.

If you need some help making up your mind, here are a few comments I got from people who attended the 3rd Conversion training live.

#1. From Jeffrey Thomas, in-house copywriter at MarketingProfs:

“JOHN this was one of the best trainings I’ve been a part of. I cannot express how excited I’ve been and I’m already reworking my presentation’s overdue slide deck.”

#2. From Folarin Madehin, freelance copywriter:

“The 3rd Conversion call was great, John! But I already expected that going in. I know you said to look at the training as more than a checklist, but that’s what was most on my mind, lol. ‘Here’s a list of stuff I can check to make products more awesome!'”

#3. From Antonet Vataj, owner of Ann Vee Marketing:

“I just wanted to drop you a quick note to say how much I absolutely loved your live class. It was perfectly timed for me, especially since I’m putting out my own offer for a done-for-you course blueprint. Your presentation was not only engaging but also such a clever demonstration of your course content in action – I was taking mental notes the whole time! (And trying to resist writing everything down lol)”

#4. From Shakoor Chowdhury, digital marketer:

“I gotta also say the way you [a list of stuff I’ve done in the past to get people to consume my courses and trainings] makes you an effective teacher and I think there is a lot to be said about the way you teach compared to traditional schooling which teaches us nothing because there is no incentive to listen and no incentive to use it or use our own initiative to ’test ourselves’ like you have done…”

“I normally get bored easily, but you were able to keep my attention throughout the entire training with minimal distraction, mainly through [some of the techniques I used inside the actual 3rd Conversion training to encourage people to consume it]… perhaps the ’tiktok generation’ has some hope after all.”

#5. From Pete Reginella, email marketer and copywriter:

“Finally got the chance to use what you taught in the 3rd Conversion training. And it went great. I did a workshop on influential and persuasive storytelling, and I modeled it according to what you taught. First time I’ve done a workshop and after sending the recording getting replies about how much people loved it.”

If you’d like to get 3rd Conversion before it disappears:

https://bejakovic.com/3rd-conversion

Don’t rely on copy for this

Yesterday, I got an interesting course creator question from Gasper Crepinsek. (For context, last week I promoted Gasper’s ChatGPT Mastery, which is delivered as a 30-day email-based course.) Gasper wrote:

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How do you go about writing cliff hangers to the next email (that open curiosity loop)?

We already have a pretty high completion rate on the course but I want to make it even bigger. And this seems like a way that could potentially help.

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This reminded me of a time I heard A-list copywriter Parris Lampropoulos during a Q&A. Somebody in the audience asked, “What kind of copy would you write to address the objection, “I need time to think about it?'”

Parris, who is as skilled and as knowledgeable a copywriter as there is, said he wouldn’t rely on copy to do this. Instead, he said he’d use the structure of the offer itself – a deadline, a limited number of spots, etc.

And so it is with my answer to Gasper’s question.

Gasper is ultimately how to tease content in a sexy way ie. how to write sales bullets.

I have an entire course about how to write sales bullets. It’s called Copy Riddles. It’s great. If you want to learn how to tease people so they pay you for the information you’re selling, then Copy Riddles is the way to go.

But when it comes to the much harder task of getting people to consume how-to info they’ve already paid for, or to complete a course, or to watch a training all the way through — and to actually get value out of it — then I wouldn’t rely on sales bullets, or on open loops, or on copy in general.

Instead, I’d rely on the structure of the course or info product itself.

I created on a training last year all about this.

It’s called 3rd Conversion, and it’s about turning one-time buyers into long-term customers by getting them to consume and digest your info products.

I’ve only offered 3rd Conversion once before, as a live training last November.

But if you like, can get your own copy of 3rd Conversion right now.

Taking a page from Parris’s book, there’s a deadline, tomorrow, Sunday at 12 midnight PST to act. After that, 3rd Conversion goes back into the vault to wait for the next four-planet alignment.

If you need some help making up your mind, here are a few comments I got from people who attended the 3rd Conversion training live.

#1. From Jeffrey Thomas, in-house copywriter at MarketingProfs:

“JOHN this was one of the best trainings I’ve been a part of. I cannot express how excited I’ve been and I’m already reworking my presentation’s overdue slide deck.”

#2. From Folarin Madehin, freelance copywriter:

“The 3rd Conversion call was great, John! But I already expected that going in. I know you said to look at the training as more than a checklist, but that’s what was most on my mind, lol. ‘Here’s a list of stuff I can check to make products more awesome!'”

#3. From Antonet Vataj, owner of Ann Vee Marketing:

“I just wanted to drop you a quick note to say how much I absolutely loved your live class. It was perfectly timed for me, especially since I’m putting out my own offer for a done-for-you course blueprint. Your presentation was not only engaging but also such a clever demonstration of your course content in action – I was taking mental notes the whole time! (And trying to resist writing everything down lol)”

#4. From Shakoor Chowdhury, digital marketer:

“I gotta also say the way you [a list of stuff I’ve done in the past to get people to consume my courses and trainings] makes you an effective teacher and I think there is a lot to be said about the way you teach compared to traditional schooling which teaches us nothing because there is no incentive to listen and no incentive to use it or use our own initiative to ’test ourselves’ like you have done…”

“I normally get bored easily, but you were able to keep my attention throughout the entire training with minimal distraction, mainly through [some of the techniques I used inside the actual 3rd Conversion training to encourage people to consume it]… perhaps the ’tiktok generation’ has some hope after all.”

#5. From Pete Reginella, email marketer and copywriter:

“Finally got the chance to use what you taught in the 3rd Conversion training. And it went great. I did a workshop on influential and persuasive storytelling, and I modeled it according to what you taught. First time I’ve done a workshop and after sending the recording getting replies about how much people loved it.”

If you’d like to get 3rd Conversion, before it disappears:

https://bejakovic.com/3rd-conversion​

My new personal best: 2,030 days

Yesterday, I got a notification from Gumroad to report on a new sale of Gasper Crepinsek’s ChatGPT Mastery program, which I’ve been promoting for the past few days.

(The deadline for ChatGPT Mastery is tonight, in less than 12 hours, at 12 midnight EST.)

A bit of behind the scenes:

I have an “LTV” spreadsheet, in which I write down every bit of money that comes in via my newsletter, so I can keep track of which of my readers are responsible for my income.

The email address of the person who bought yesterday was familiar to me… but I didn’t know their name.

I searched in Gmail. It turned out this person signed up to my list back in 2019.

(That’s why I remembered the email address. I probably had 5 people on my list total at that time, and I was obsessively checking who opened my email each day.)

Since then, this person (whose name I still don’t know) never replied to any of my emails, and never bought anything that I promoted.

Until now, almost 6 years later.

I previously had a case study — a previous personal best — of 775 days from the time somebody signed up to my list to the first time they bought something I was promoting.

2,030 days definitely beats it, and makes for a new personal best.

I’m telling you this for two reasons.

First reason is a bit of kick, if you still need it, to start or stick with daily emailing. Maybe you haven’t gotten started yet. Or maybe you are now, like I was then, checking your email opens, and finding that, yeah, maybe people read, but they never reply, and they certainly don’t buy nothing.

They will, in time, if you only keep at it.

Second reason is that I shared this new personal best inside my Daily Email House community yesterday. And Maliha Mannan, who writes over at The Side Blogger, and who is also promoting Gasper’s ChatGPT Mastery, wrote:

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Funny coincidence: yesterday I made a sale and the person who bought has been a subscriber since 2021 and never bought anything from me until yesterday 🤘

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Coincidence… or maybe not?

Maybe ChatGPT Mastery is just an exciting offer at the right time, which is attracting even people who have been quiet for a long time?

You can decide for yourself, if you like. (If you don’t, the deadline will decide for you.) To help you do that, here’s my original email, explaining why I’m endorsing and promoting ChatGPT Mastery:

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Today I’d like to recommend to you a 30-day program called ChatGPT Mastery, which is about… mastering ChatGPT, with the goal of having a kind of large and fast horse to ride on.

Here’s a list of exciting facts I’ve prepared for you about this new offer:

#1. ChatGPT Mastery is a cohort course — it kicks off and ends on a specific date — that helps you actually integrate and benefit from AI.

The idea being, things in the AI space are changing so fast that anything that came out even a few months ago is likely to be out of date.

And rather than saying “Oh let me spend a few dozen hours every quarter researching the latest advice on how to actually use this stuff” — because you won’t, just like I won’t – you can just get somebody else to do the work of cutting a path for you through the quickly regenerating AI jungle.

#2. I myself have gone through through ChatGPT Mastery, from A-Z, all 30 days, during the last cohort.

I didn’t pay for it because I was offered to get in for free.

I did go through it first and foremost for my own selfish interests — I feel a constant sense of guilt over not using AI enough in what I do — and only then with a secondary goal of promoting it if I benefited from it enough. So here I am.

#3. ChatGPT Mastery is created and run by Gasper Crepinsek. Gasper is an ex-Boston Consulting Group guy and from what I can tell, one of those hardworking and productive consulting types, the kind I look upon with a mixture of wonder and green envy.

But to hear Gasper tell it, he quit his consulting job to have more freedom, started creating info products online like everybody else, realized he had just bought himself another 70 hr/week job, and then had the idea to automate as much of it as he could with AI.

He’s largely succeeded — he now spends his mornings eating croissants and sipping coffee while strolling around Paris, because most of his work of content creation and social media and even his trip planning have been automated in large part or in full.

#4. Before I went through the 30 days of ChatGPT Mastery, I had already been using ChatGPT daily for a couple years. Inevitably, that means a good part of what Gasper teaches was familiar to me.

Other stuff he teaches was simply not relevant (I won’t be using ChatGPT to write my daily emails, thank you). The way I still benefited from ChatGPT Mastery was:

– By having my mind opened to using ChatGPT for things for things I hadn’t thought of before (just one example: I did a “dopamine reset” protocol over 4 weeks, which was frankly wonderful, and which ChatGPT designed for me, and which I got the idea for while doing ChatGPT Mastery)

– By seeing Gasper’s very structured, consulting-minded approach to automating various aspects of his business, and being inspired to port some of that to my own specific situation

– With several valuable meta-prompts that I continue to use, such as the prompt for generating custom GPTs

#5. The way you could benefit from ChatGPT Mastery is likely to be highly specific to what you do and who you are.

The program focuses on a different use case every day. Some days will be more relevant to you than others. The previous cohort covered topics like competitor analysis, insights based on customer calls or testimonials, and of course the usual stuff like content and idea generation, plus hobuncha more.

If you do any of the specific things that Gasper covers, and if you do them on at least an occasional basis, then odds are you will get a great return on both the time and money and that ChatGPT Mastery requires of you, before the 30 days are out.

Beyond that, ChatGPT Mastery can open your mind to what’s possible, give you confidence and a bunch of examples to get you spotting what could be automated in what you do, plus the techniques for how to do it (I’ve already automated a handful of things in what I do, and I have a list of next things to do).

#6. The time required for ChatGPT Mastery is about 15-20 minutes per day for 30 days. The money required is an upfront payment of $199.

I can imagine that one or the other of these is not easy for you to eke out in the current moment.

All I can say is that it’s an investment that’s likely to pay you back many times over, in terms of both time and money. And the sooner you make that investment, the greater and quicker the returns will come.

#7. If you’d like to find out the full details about ChatGPT Mastery, or even to sign up before the cohort kicks off:

https://bejakovic.com/gasper

How to get a one-time course to maintain its value

Dr. Kiran Agarwal, who is both a practicing GP in London and a stress-management coach, writes in with a legit question (or actually 3) about my ongoing promo of ChatGPT Mastery:

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Thanks for introducing Gasper – I am interested as you are supporting him.

A couple of quick questions- is this specific for chatGPT? or prompts can be used for any other AIs?

And why would you not let it write your daily emails? Is it because you like writing them or anything else?

As things are changing so fast in AI space, how will this one time course maintain its value after a couple of months?

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Kiran’s third question is really the most interesting, but let me answer the first two quickly:

1. ChatGPT Mastery is specific to ChatGPT. That said, I imagine the prompts would work in any other chat-like AI tool like Claude or Gemini.

2. I get value out of writing emails beyond just the money I make from them, or the fact that they’re sent out. Plus, I don’t think that anybody or anything can get my own tone and ideas exactly right.

That’s why I wouldn’t let AI write my emails, and why I wouldn’t hire a copywriter to write my emails either.

3. Like I said, this question is the most interesting. Sure, it’s fine to find out how to get the most out of ChatGPT today… but what about in July? Or August? Or next year?

I checked the sales page for ChatGPT Mastery, and there was nothing about this question. So I wrote to Gasper Crepinsek, the guy behind ChatGPT Mastery, to find out what he has to say.

Gasper got back to me with the exact response I was hoping for:

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If someone wants to take the course again, I will simply add them in the future run.

I want to build long-term customers. My whole goal is to keep adding to the course and people who put the trust early will get everything I add locked in at the initial price they paid.

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I think what Gasper is doing is super smart. I say that having done the same with my Copy Riddles course back when I ran it as a cohort course.

I allowed people who joined Copy Riddles in previous runs to join future runs for free. It bought me a bunch of goodwill, created customers who are still with me years later, plus it produced some great case studies and testimonials from people who got more on the 2nd or 3rd run than they did the first time around. He who has ears, let him hear.

Also, let him hear this:

The deadline to join ChatGPT Mastery is tomorrow, Thursday, at 12 midnight EST (not PST, the way I do).

If you’re on the fence, it’s time to make up your mind one way or the other, otherwise the deadline will make up your mind for you.

If you want more info to help you make up your mind, here’s my initial email, detailing why I’m endorsing and promoting ChatGPT Mastery:

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Today I’d like to recommend to you a 30-day program called ChatGPT Mastery, which is about… mastering ChatGPT, with the goal of having a kind of large and fast horse to ride on.

Here’s a list of exciting facts I’ve prepared for you about this new offer:

#1. ChatGPT Mastery is a cohort course — it kicks off and ends on a specific date — that helps you actually integrate and benefit from AI.

The idea being, things in the AI space are changing so fast that anything that came out even a few months ago is likely to be out of date.

And rather than saying “Oh let me spend a few dozen hours every quarter researching the latest advice on how to actually use this stuff” — because you won’t, just like I won’t – you can just get somebody else to do the work of cutting a path for you through the quickly regenerating AI jungle.

#2. I myself have gone through through ChatGPT Mastery, from A-Z, all 30 days, during the last cohort.

I didn’t pay for it because I was offered to get in for free.

I did go through it first and foremost for my own selfish interests — I feel a constant sense of guilt over not using AI enough in what I do — and only then with a secondary goal of promoting it if I benefited from it enough. So here I am.

#3. ChatGPT Mastery is created and run by Gasper Crepinsek. Gasper is an ex-Boston Consulting Group guy and from what I can tell, one of those hardworking and productive consulting types, the kind I look upon with a mixture of wonder and green envy.

But to hear Gasper tell it, he quit his consulting job to have more freedom, started creating info products online like everybody else, realized he had just bought himself another 70 hr/week job, and then had the idea to automate as much of it as he could with AI.

He’s largely succeeded — he now spends his mornings eating croissants and sipping coffee while strolling around Paris, because most of his work of content creation and social media and even his trip planning have been automated in large part or in full.

#4. Before I went through the 30 days of ChatGPT Mastery, I had already been using ChatGPT daily for a couple years. Inevitably, that means a good part of what Gasper teaches was familiar to me.

Other stuff he teaches was simply not relevant (I won’t be using ChatGPT to write my daily emails, thank you). The way I still benefited from ChatGPT Mastery was:

– By having my mind opened to using ChatGPT for things for things I hadn’t thought of before (just one example: I did a “dopamine reset” protocol over 4 weeks, which was frankly wonderful, and which ChatGPT designed for me, and which I got the idea for while doing ChatGPT Mastery)

– By seeing Gasper’s very structured, consulting-minded approach to automating various aspects of his business, and being inspired to port some of that to my own specific situation

– With several valuable meta-prompts that I continue to use, such as the prompt for generating custom GPTs

#5. The way you could benefit from ChatGPT Mastery is likely to be highly specific to what you do and who you are.

The program focuses on a different use case every day. Some days will be more relevant to you than others. The previous cohort covered topics like competitor analysis, insights based on customer calls or testimonials, and of course the usual stuff like content and idea generation, plus hobuncha more.

If you do any of the specific things that Gasper covers, and if you do them on at least an occasional basis, then odds are you will get a great return on both the time and money and that ChatGPT Mastery requires of you, before the 30 days are out.

Beyond that, ChatGPT Mastery can open your mind to what’s possible, give you confidence and a bunch of examples to get you spotting what could be automated in what you do, plus the techniques for how to do it (I’ve already automated a handful of things in what I do, and I have a list of next things to do).

#6. The time required for ChatGPT Mastery is about 15-20 minutes per day for 30 days. The money required is an upfront payment of $199.

I can imagine that one or the other of these is not easy for you to eke out in the current moment.

All I can say is that it’s an investment that’s likely to pay you back many times over, in terms of both time and money. And the sooner you make that investment, the greater and quicker the returns will come.

#7. If you’d like to find out the full details about ChatGPT Mastery, or even to sign up before the cohort kicks off:

https://bejakovic.com/gasper

Why I didn’t build a list in the copywriting/marketing space

Yesterday I mentioned how a while back, I followed Travis Speegle’s MyPeeps program to build up a new email list of dog owners via paid ads. To which a long-time reader wrote in to ask:

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Just curious, John, how come you didn’t build a list in the copywriting/marketing space? I’m using a different process myself that will help me build a list with a combo of content + paid ads so curious to hear how come you don’t try to grow your existing list.

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Good question.

First off, I frankly don’t want to build a “copywriting” list.

I haven’t primarily been writing about copywriting for, I don’t know, the past two+ years, ever since I stopped working with copywriting clients, and maybe before then.

I have been writing about persuasion and influence and psychology on the one hand, and online businesses and marketing on the other hand, and random other stuff that I find funny or interesting on the third hand.

But the real question is why not build up this existing list, and why start a new list instead?

I thought about it. I came up with a few reasons, ranked here from most logical and therefore least likely to be true, to least logical and therefore most likely to be true:

#1. I wanted to do a demonstration for the people inside the implementation group I ran when I first promoted MyPeeps. I didn’t want people who were building up their own lists to throw up their arms and say, “Of course you can do it because you have all these assets I don’t have!” A new list would make the demonstration cleaner and more persuasive.

#2. I was genuinely thinking to do this dog list as a side business of its own (I still think it could be viable). The list building implementation group I ran seemed like a good moment to kick that off.

#3. My simple opportunity-seeking mindset, which lives at the core of my person, and which says it’s more exciting to start something new and risky than to toil away on something familiar and proven.

#4. Because it’s simpler to run ads for a new, impersonal list than an existing, personal list. About that:

Like I said, I ran a 4-week implementation group for the people who bought MyPeeps when I promoted it as an affiliate.

In that group, I could see people running ads to build up their own personal lists.

AND IT DID NOT WORK.

Not because paid ads are a scam, or because Travis Speegle’s MyPeeps course doesn’t deliver.

Travis lays out very simple and yet very proven process to make paid ads work for list building, whether it’s your own personal list or an anonymous list of dog owners.

The reason it didn’t work for many people is because they refused to follow a crucial step in Travis’s process.

In fact, even when I pointed out to people they were skipping this crucial step, they nodded at me, smiled in appreciation of my looking out for them, and then turned around and continued to do exactly what they had been doing, which was skipping this crucial step.

What is this step?

Travis’s MyPeeps course describes is very well in module 1 and again in module 5.

If you would like to build up a new list, or to grow your existing list, you can find full info on Travis’s MyPeeps below:

https://bejakovic.com/mypeeps

P.S. If you have bought MyPeeps, forward me your receipt. I’ll share with you the recordings of the calls and my own notes that I initially did inside the implementation group last year.

And if you’ve already sent me your receipt, check inside the bonuses area that I gave you access to.

I’ve added a “DO YOU MAKE THESE MISTAKES IN PAID ADS FOR YOUR PERSONAL LIST?” document in there (very subtle, I know). It highlights the crucial step so many list owners are skipping when creating ads to promote their existing personal list, and explains how you can maybe avoid doing the same.

My advice on actually building an email list

A diligent reader writes in with a familiar question:

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Hi John,

From what I’ve seen, Daily Email Habit helps you with your already existing email list, right?

My question is, do you have any course or advice on actually building an email list first. Correct me if I’m wrong about the Daily Email Habit.

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The diligent reader above is absolutely right. Daily Email Habit is about emailing your existing list.

List building is not my forte or my focus, and therefore I don’t sell a course on it.

But last year, I did promote Travis Speegle’s MyPeeps course, all about how to build a large, engaged email list.

I bought Travis’s course myself before promoting it. I thought the content was great. I ended up promoting it to my list and even running an “implementation group” on the back of it over 4 weeks.

As part of this implementation group, I started a new list (dog owners, since I’d done a lot of client work in this space once upon a time)… I went through Travis’s training… and I followed what Travis advised to the letter.

The result for me personally were new, qualified email susbcribers at about $0.60 a name.

If you are looking to build a list, then MyPeeps is my recommendation for how to do it quickly, on a budget of $10-$20 a day, so you end up with subscribers who actually want to read what you have to write and buy what you have to offer.

If you’d like to find out the full details on MyPeeps, or start building an engaged email list today:

https://bejakovic.com/mypeeps

P.S. Within that implementation group, I did three live calls with the participants.

I also had an 8-page document of notes I personally took from Travis’s course.

If you do decide to sign up for MyPeeps, forward me your receipt, and I will hook you up with the recordings of those calls and my own notes, to help you get more out of this course and to do it more quickly.