Yesterday I mentioned how a while back, I followed Travis Speegle’s MyPeeps program to build up a new email list of dog owners via paid ads. To which a long-time reader wrote in to ask:
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Just curious, John, how come you didn’t build a list in the copywriting/marketing space? I’m using a different process myself that will help me build a list with a combo of content + paid ads so curious to hear how come you don’t try to grow your existing list.
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Good question.
First off, I frankly don’t want to build a “copywriting” list.
I haven’t primarily been writing about copywriting for, I don’t know, the past two+ years, ever since I stopped working with copywriting clients, and maybe before then.
I have been writing about persuasion and influence and psychology on the one hand, and online businesses and marketing on the other hand, and random other stuff that I find funny or interesting on the third hand.
But the real question is why not build up this existing list, and why start a new list instead?
I thought about it. I came up with a few reasons, ranked here from most logical and therefore least likely to be true, to least logical and therefore most likely to be true:
#1. I wanted to do a demonstration for the people inside the implementation group I ran when I first promoted MyPeeps. I didn’t want people who were building up their own lists to throw up their arms and say, “Of course you can do it because you have all these assets I don’t have!” A new list would make the demonstration cleaner and more persuasive.
#2. I was genuinely thinking to do this dog list as a side business of its own (I still think it could be viable). The list building implementation group I ran seemed like a good moment to kick that off.
#3. My simple opportunity-seeking mindset, which lives at the core of my person, and which says it’s more exciting to start something new and risky than to toil away on something familiar and proven.
#4. Because it’s simpler to run ads for a new, impersonal list than an existing, personal list. About that:
Like I said, I ran a 4-week implementation group for the people who bought MyPeeps when I promoted it as an affiliate.
In that group, I could see people running ads to build up their own personal lists.
AND IT DID NOT WORK.
Not because paid ads are a scam, or because Travis Speegle’s MyPeeps course doesn’t deliver.
Travis lays out very simple and yet very proven process to make paid ads work for list building, whether it’s your own personal list or an anonymous list of dog owners.
The reason it didn’t work for many people is because they refused to follow a crucial step in Travis’s process.
In fact, even when I pointed out to people they were skipping this crucial step, they nodded at me, smiled in appreciation of my looking out for them, and then turned around and continued to do exactly what they had been doing, which was skipping this crucial step.
What is this step?
Travis’s MyPeeps course describes is very well in module 1 and again in module 5.
If you would like to build up a new list, or to grow your existing list, you can find full info on Travis’s MyPeeps below:
P.S. If you have bought MyPeeps, forward me your receipt. I’ll share with you the recordings of the calls and my own notes that I initially did inside the implementation group last year.
And if you’ve already sent me your receipt, check inside the bonuses area that I gave you access to.
I’ve added a “DO YOU MAKE THESE MISTAKES IN PAID ADS FOR YOUR PERSONAL LIST?” document in there (very subtle, I know). It highlights the crucial step so many list owners are skipping when creating ads to promote their existing personal list, and explains how you can maybe avoid doing the same.