I was on the Barcelona metro yesterday, bouncing along, keeping my eye out for potential assailants, and listening to a podcast — James Schramko interviewing Ryan Lee.
In case those names don’t mean much to you, both guys are highly successful, highly influential Internet marketers.
Both James and Ryan have been at it for decades.
Both have made many millions for themselves, and probably hundreds of millions for their various coaching clients.
For example, Ryan has coached multimillionaire fitness marketers like Mike Geary (PaleoHacks, Truth About Abs) and Jeff Cavaliere (Athlean-X, 14M subscribers on YouTube).
James on the other hand has coached multimillionaire info marketers like Ryan Levesque (ASK Method) and Kevin Rogers (Copy Chief).
Point being, both Jeff and Ryan are the real deal when it comes to knowledge of Internet marketing and to getting actual results.
At the end of the interview, just as I was nearing my stop, James summed up the takeaways of their call, with Ryan jumping in:
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JAMES:
1. Find a way to get recurring income
2. Keep it as simple as possible
3. YouTube is a strong front-end driver and potentially a good income earner
4. Email is still solid as a rock
RYAN: No matter what you do, whatever social platform you pick…
JAMES: … build an email list.
RYAN: YouTube, TikTok, Instagram — get ’em on your list, because at the end of the day, you control it.
JAMES: That’s the simple advice that people ignore.
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I’m telling you all this because there are still people who say they don’t have time to email.
Maybe that’s you too.
I’m sure you’re busy, and you have lots of stuff to do. Work, family, dog, cat.
I can completely understand.
I just wanted to share the point of view of James and Ryan above, because they are both very experienced… because they both make very nice money by working something like 10-15 hours a week… and because they are not in the business of selling email marketing or email copywriting.
And yet, both agree that there are only a few needed ingredients for long-term success… and that email is one non-negotiable part of that. (By the way, they both practice what they preach, and write emails, as Ryan says, dailyish.)
If you want to follow their simple advice, and you also want to see how to write dailyish emails faster, in as little as 15-20 minutes a day, without being particularly creative or inspired, then take a look here: