The biggest secret to building a big audience

I’ll tell you about the biggest secret in a second. But I feel I should sneak up on it a little, so it has more impact.

So let me ask you:

Have you ever heard of Leroy Smith? The former pro basketball player, with the story in his past?

Smith attended the University of North Carolina at Charlotte from 1981 to 1985, and he played for the UNC team.

After that, Smith turned pro and played for various prestigious basketball teams, including Hemel & Watford Royals, the Westchester Golden Apples, and Kumagai Gumi Bruins.

Yes, those are all real basketball teams. I did not make them up.

In many instances, Smith led these no-name, fourth-tier teams that nobody cares about in various important categories, including scoring, rebounds, and blocked shots.

No? None of this sounds familiar? You haven’t heard of Smith or his accomplishments?

Honestly I’m not surprised.

Really the only reason anybody today has heard of Smith, and that includes me, is that back in 1978, Smith got picked for his high school varsity team over his childhood friend Michael Jordan.

Smith and Jordan were both 15 at the time. But Smith already stood at 6’7, or 201 cm, while Jordan was only 5’10, or 180cm.

When Michael Jordan was inducted into the Basketball Hall of Fame, Smith was there in the audience. Jordan said of Smith, “He’s not any bigger, his game is about the same.”

Meanwhile, Jordan became Jordan. It helped that he had a rhinoceros-sized chip on his shoulder.

“It all started when Coach Herring cut me,” Jordan said. “It was embarrassing, not making that team.”

Jordan spent his sophomore year working hard on basketball. He became more skilled and confident. More importantly, he developed the habits of obsessive self-improvement and discipline and training.

These habits, combined with a growth spurt that saw him add another 8 inches in height, landed Jordan not just on the high school varsity team… not just on the college basketball team… not just in the pros… but made him into the greatest basketball player of all time.

“Business,” I hear you saying, “talk business, Bejako! Michael Jordan is all well and good, but don’t you realize my time is money…”

Fine. Let me hurry my analogy along. I’d like to present to you an idea I heard from marketer Travis Sago:

“The biggest secret to building a big audience is knowing how to monetize a small one.”

Travis’s point is that if every visitor you could drive to your sales page was worth a thousand bucks to you… would you really have a traffic problem?

Would you have any trouble buying traffic?

Would it be hard to get other people as affiliates for your offer?

Would you need to get motivated to write and send another email, knowing that 10 or 12 people – “only 10 or 12 people!” — will click through to your sales page?

I doubt it.

Maybe a thousand bucks per visitor to your sales page sounds ambitious or even unrealistic.

Fine. But if you’re constantly looking for new traffic, or if you think that more traffic will solve all your problems, then I bet you have some room to develop the habit of obsessive list monetization.

Figure out how to monetize your current list better… and not only will it become way easier to kick off that audience growth spurt… but when the growth spurt happens, you’ll have a shot at a Michael Jordan-like career, instead of a Leroy Smith-like career.

And on that note, I’d like to remind you of my ongoing hand-raiser campaign. Here are the details on that, from my email yesterday:

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I’ve set aside time over the next month to help two business owners to quickly churn up new offers using their catalogue of existing products. The ultimate goal here is to:

* Create something new and exciting for your audience, without creating entirely new products

* Develop a new asset for yourself — a new offer you can reissue in the future with little tweaks or maybe without any tweaks

* Bring in new buyers who might then buy other stuff from you, or get deeper into your world

* Do a bit of work and make back a good deal of money as a result

If you want a specific example:

Last week, I sent three emails over two days in what I called my Shangri-La MVE event. Those three emails ended up selling 22 copies of a $297 course that I had already promoted hundreds of times over the past couple years. $6.5k or so when all the money comes in, and all it took in terms of work was a couple of hours of repackaging content I already had.

I’ve run other such promo events, ranging anywhere from 1-14 days. Some were complete duds, and brought in less money than this Shangri-La event. But others brought in more, well into the 5-figures.

Your specific numbers?

It will depend on how big your list is, the relationship you have with the people on there, and of course your offers.

But with my second pair of eagle eyes scanning over all your assets… and my experience running not only my own “reissue events” but also coaching a couple dozen copywriters who worked on these kinds of promos for clients… you will be more likely to come out of this with a result you can be happy with.

Like I said, I’m talking to a few business owners about this already.

If you’re interested in this offer in principle, hit reply and let me know a bit about your list (size, how often you write, etc.) and your back catalogue of previous hits.

I will be promoting this offer until this Thursday. I want to talk to everyone who’s interested and find the two people I think I am best qualified to help… and then we’ll kick things off.

Who wins the fight: Viral posts or paid traffic?

I’ll tell ya, or actually, I’ll defer to a person with more authority on the matter:

Russell Nohelty.

As I wrote once last week, Russell is a bestselling author of fantasy books and comics. He also writes about the business of writing, and he runs Writer MBA, a membership program to help writers make more money.

Over the past 6 months, Russell spent $30k on paid ads to beef up his email list, which now stands at over 70,000 subscribers.

Russell and I did a call last Monday about his experiences spending all that money on ads.

On the call, Russell said something interesting — that advertising democratizes virality. Says Russell, advertising allows people who were not “blessed by the magic audience fairy” to build an audience for their work.

Sounds great, right?

Except… do you really wanna go viral? Here’s another thing that Russell said:

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I have never heard somebody say, “I went viral and got all the best people subscribing to me!”

It’s always some version of “Wow, lots of bigots in the comments who hate everything about me.”

If you are attracting the wrong crowd organically, you could end up in a way worse place than running ads. I know because I’ve been there.

Both are bad and both are good. The difference is the quality of the traffic source, how you nurture the leads you generate, and whether you are paying in time or money.

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This isn’t about trumpeting paid traffic over organic traffic, or vice versa. The point is simply this:

Where you get your subscribers matters… how you get them matters… what you promise them matters… how you treat them when they’re on your list matters.

This is not any kind of inspirational woo-woo, but very practical dollars-and-cents calculus, borne out by sales, spam complaints, and the number of interesting or annoying reader replies.

And this is one of the reasons why I liked Travis Speegle’s paid list-building approach, the one he teaches in his MyPEEPS course, which I’ve been promoting all week long.

Travis’s system is not about paying to inflate your subscriber count with people who hate you or never want to hear from you. It’s also not about getting the cheapest traffic simply because it’s cheap.

Instead, Travis’s approach is about building a quality list, with paid ads, sustainably, with the goal of having a valuable relationship with the people on that list for the long term. That in fact is why the course is called MyPEEPS, and not “8-Figure A-List Media-Buying Secrets.”

The deadline to get MyPEEPS is tonight at 12 midnight PST, less than 12 hours from now.

The reason to get MyPEEPS before then is my Shotgun Messenger bonus — my personal support and insight as you work through MyPEEPS and implement it to grow your own list.

As an extra bonus, I’m also including the call on which I interviewed Russell Nohelty about his experiences with paid traffic to grow his personal brand…, as well as a series of articles that Russell wrote on the topic, which are normally reserved for his paid subscribers.

If you’d like the full details on MyPEEPS and my bonus offer, or if you want in before the deadline strikes:

​https://bejakovic.com/shotgun​

Getting hooked on the hamster wheel

Back in 2009, before social media really transformed the world, a Dutch scientist named Johanna Meier set up revolutionary experiment in her back yard:

She put an open cage in an ivy-tangled corner of the yard. Inside the cage, she put some food pellets and a running wheel. She then trained a motion-activated camera on the scene.

Sure enough:

Wild mice started arriving during the night. They entered the cage to get the food pellets. But they also tried out the running wheel — and they got hooked.

Meier recorded more than 12,000 different animals getting on the running wheel night after night. Her point was proven — even perfectly wild, free animals would willingly enter a cage and run around on the wheel, going nowhere.

Once the mice got habituated, Meier could even take the treats away. The mice still kept coming night after night, to run around in place, doing what they had gotten used to.

I bring this up because in the 15 years since that experiment, social media has often unflatteringly been compared to a hamster wheel.

I’ve never really used social media so I can’t say if that’s true.

But maybe it resonates with you. Maye you have experience getting lured into social media by the promise of treats — a huge free audience — only to have the treats pulled away from you, while you keep running in place.

If so, I’d like to present an alternative:

Building up a modest, engaged, scalable email list by paying for ads. Sure, ads cost money. But so does the wasted opportunity of weeks, months, or years of running in place on social media, without getting anywhere.

If this speaks to you, I’d like to remind you of the deadline to get MyPEEPS, tonight at 12 midnight PST.

In a food pelletshell, MyPEEPS shows you how to build your email list with paid traffic — putting in $10-$15, and getting out 10-15 new subscribers a day — so you can in time have a proper audience of people who want to read what you write, and buy what you sell.

Plus, the free Shotgun Messenger bonus I’m offering gets you my direct help and input as you actually put the MyPEEPS process into practice.

If you want the full details on that, or to sign up for before the deadline strikes:

​​https://bejakovic.com/shotgun​​

The curious case of the 7,730-word Facebook ad

“My new husband is disabled, yet he manages to wear me out every night”

… I’m sitting in a busy cafe, full of other expats, because my cleaning woman Flor has taken command of my apartment.

A few moments ago, I was discreetly and quietly digging through the Facebook ad library, looking for what I knew I would soon find.

And I did — a 7,730-word ad, which starts with a teaser:

“Her groom ran away from wedding to pursue his first love. Heartbroken, she randomly found a disabled man who was also abandoned to get married. Unexpectedly, he turned out to be a billionaire!”

This Facebook ad goes on for two chapters of dense literotica, before informing me that “Available chapters here are limited, click the button below to install the App and enjoy more exciting chapters.”

Sure enough I did click, a website opened up, and the above line, about my new disabled husband and his nightly staying power, blared out of my laptop speakers and throughout the cafe, as I scrambled to find the mute button.

So now, rather than raising my eyes from the keyboard and meeting the curious gaze of all the other cafe goers, I am focusing intently on writing this email.

I don’t know the full story of this ad or the business behind it. Maybe it’s some sort of scam.

Or maybe it’s just what it says it is:

A mobile app with a subscription for literotica books… which is being sold via dozens of Facebook ads that run for 5k+ words each.

I bring this up because last night, during the interview I did with Travis Speegle on list building via paid traffic, a question came in:

“Do you feel that attention spans are getting shorter and marketers have to get more sophisticated and learn ‘vsl’ or video ads for more engagement?”

Attention spans aren’t as short as you may have been led to believe.

And video ads are not required for anything, though they can be a good option for many tyings.

More generally, the eternal truth still holds. You reap what you sow.

If you create advertising inviting people to be distracted, gullible, greedy, scared, cheap — or to consume pages and pages of disabled billionaire literotica — that’s what you’re going to get.

On the other hand, if you create advertising inviting people to be good customers or email list subscribers, well, it works in that direction also.

And on that note:

This week, I’m promoting Travis Speegle’s MyPEEPS course, which gives you the core of Travis’s ~20 years of media buying and list-building experience for a one-time investment of $495.

Travis actually walks you through, in real time, how he creates ads in Facebook and what he puts in them to get the right kinds of people onto his email lists and the list of the big DR clients he accepts as clients.

Plus, if you get MyPEEPS via my affiliate link before this Sunday at 12 midnight PST, I will also include a bonus, which I’m offering for free, only this once, and which I would normally charge $500 or more for.

The free bonus is that I’ll ride shotgun as you build up your own list following the process in MyPEEPS, and give you my copywriting feedback and marketing input along the way.

For the full details on how this will work, or to get MyPEEPS and my free bonus as well:

​​https://bejakovic.com/shotgun​

What color is your Lambo?

Let’s play a game. But first, let me get the hardcore, XXX marketing lesson out of the way:

One of the crucial parts of an effective sales letter is where you get people to “grasp the advantage.” That’s when you get them to understand what your offer will really do for them, in their own lives, in terms that mean something to them.

In a way, it’s a matter of translation.

For example, let’s take a promise I’ve been making lately, of getting 10-15 new subscribers to your email list each day.

Sounds nice, but really, who cares?

Let’s translate what that could really mean in your own life.

Get 10-15 new subscribers per day, every day, for a year… and you would be sitting on a list of exactly 4,562 and 1/2 human beings who said they want to hear from you.

What’s that worth?

Nobody really knows. I can tell you that an individual subscriber to my own email list has been worth $0 in the months when I didn’t make any offers… all the way to $5-$10+ in months when I had exciting offers and went hard on the promotion.

I’m sure many people have much higher numbers still.

But we gotta pick something. So let’s say $1/month for every subscriber on your list. That’s a kind of rule of thumb for email marketing in general.

What could you do with an extra $4,562.5 per month?

Of course, you could do the classic things, like work less… pay down debt… save more for yourself or your family… reinvest to make still more money.

Those are all reasonable and respectable options.

But like I said at the start, let’s play a game.

What fun, unexpected, thrilling gifts to yourself could you spend and splurge $4,562.5 on each month? Just as a thought experiment?

How about this:

You could hire a personal chef to cook every meal for you and your family, day in and day out. Groceries, chopping, sauteing, cleanup, all included.

Rates for personal chefs start at around $150 a day. You might have to pay more if you live in London or LA, or if you want someone with Michelin-star experience. I don’t know, maybe just do the weekdays in that case, instead of every day?

Or take option 2:

You could get a membership at Carbone, a private club in NYC that allows you access to Carbone Privato, a members-only restaurant frequented by other members, such as Rihanna, Leonardo DiCaprio, and Jay Z.

Membership at Carbone is $30,000 per year, but I’m guessing you can break it up monthly.

Even if the monthly rate ends up a bit higher in total, it would still leave you money to travel to New York and afford a steak or two at Carbone Privato each month… while you toast Leo across the room with a glass of champagne, in that way he does in The Great Gatsby.

Or of course, there’s the third and final option:

You could simply go the Tai Lopez route, and lease a Lamborghini month by month. The question is, what color? Black? Yellow? Grigio Telesto?

A Lambo Galardo lease starts at $1,700/month. At that rate, you could just get two, so you don’t have to choose between your favorite colors. And you’d still have money left over for gas.

Maybe none of these is exactly what you would want to spend $4,562.5 on each month… but maybe I gave you some ideas?

If I did, this might help you make those ideas a reality:

Until this Sunday, 12 midnight PST, I am promoting Travis Speegle’s myPEEPS list-building course. In a nutshell, Travis shows you how to build your email list using ads, so you can put in $10-15 a day and get 10-15 subscribers out.

You can find out more about Travis’s course at the link at the bottom.

For now, I’ll just say I’ve personally gone through myPEEPS, and I will be following it myself to build up a new list I’ve started.

That’s why I am also offering a “Shotgun Messenger” bonus if you buy myPEEPS through my affiliate link below.

Basically, you can build your list while I build mine, and get my marketing feedback and copywriting input along the way.

I’ll ride shotgun alongside you as you implement the program Travis lays out in myPEEPS. I’ll shoot down any dangerous or distracting ideas that pop up out of the bushes… I’ll read the map if you feel you’ve lost the way… and I’ll help you protect the valuable cargo you are transporting — meaning the money to spend on ads, but more importantly, your enthusiasm and your will to keep going.

I will deliver the “Shotgun Messenger” part of this offer over the next month via Zoom and via Skool (already live for a group of people who signed up early).

If you must have the full, dry details of how this bonus offer will work in order to decide whether or not to invest in myPEEPS, then write me, and I will get the details to you.

Or if you want to find out more about the core offer, myPEEPS, and what it could do for you, and maybe your garage:

​https://bejakovic.com/mypeeps​

This Wednesday: Fireside council with a list-building wizard

This Wednesday at 8pm CET/2pm EST/11am PST, I, Bejako Baggins, will sit down with one of the great list-building wizards of Middle Earth, Travis the White, aka Travis Speegle.

Who:

Travis started his first business online in 1996, during the First Age of Middle Earth. Today, Travis is the media buyer for a handful of big and profitable direct response brands. He figures has generated over 7.5+ million leads in his career.

Why:

Because recently, I went through Travis’s myPEEPS program, which lays out his process for building lists with paid traffic. I will be promoting myPEEPS this week, and I will be following it next week to start growing my own list with paid traffic.

What:

If you’re interested in growing your list… in running paid traffic more generally… or in running a successful online business for the long term, then you are invited to join Travis and me to sit down around a virtual fireside on Zoom, and listen in as I ask about:

Exciting list building quests Travis is embarking on this year

Magical spells working in paid traffic right now (hint: I expect it’s pretty much what’s worked since Isildur was king of Gondor)

Where Travis is buying traffic, and how he chooses among the options based on the monsters he has to fight

I will also open the council floor for questions, as long as they are interresting, useful to the entire council body, and not already covered inside travis’s paid program.

If you’d like to join us, you will need to be inside my hobbit hole, I mean on my list, first. Press this magical link to have a chance to get inside.

Last call for tonight’s mystery bonus

One of the pros of working as a freelance copywriter is that, along with getting paid, you basically get a free MBA.

I knew nothing about business before I got started as a copywriter.

But offer to write a sales page for somebody… and they will take you behind the curtains of their business and tell you everything — how they get their customers… what they sell them… what they really sell them, after that first sale… how much they charge… what has worked… what hasn’t.

You can ask whatever you want, however intrusive, and the client will answer, in detail, and truthfully.

I don’t miss much about working with clients, but this ongoing business education is one thing I do miss.

Good thing is, coaching people — successful business owners, or copywriters working with successful businesses — is almost as good.

So for example:

A few months ago, one of the copywriters I coached inside Shiv Shetti’s PCM mastermind was writing an email promo for a business coach.

The business coach was selling a $5k program. You had to get on a sales call to get in the program.

So far, so standard.

The one unusual thing was that the business coach offered a sexy bribe just to get people onto the sales call.

Whether or not that’s a smart thing to do is a question for another time.

For now, all I’ll say is that, thanks to coaching the copywriter in charge of this promo, I actually got to look inside the sexy bribe. It was a “plug-and-play email funnel” to 1) generate passive income and 2) get more qualified leads on your email list.

I can tell you this:

* The strategy was really far from being anything NEW

* Calling it “passive income” was a bit of a stretch, or at least creative repackaging

But the truth remains, this little email “funnel” was highly valuable for this business coach and her clients.

And it also happens to be something I have used myself, on multiple occasions, for years now, to offset the cost of ads I was running to various email lists, or even to remove those costs altogether.

I will be revealing this little “funnel” in a mystery bonus that will disappear at 12 midnight PST tonight.

In case you are interested, the time to move is now. And in case you have successfully managed to avoid all my emails about this offer until now, the details are below:

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The background:

I will be building up a new list I’ve launched via paid ads, starting at $10-$15 a day, and aiming to get 10-15 subscribers for that money.

If you like, you can follow the same process I will be following (a course by an expert list builder, which costs $495), plus you can get my live copywriting feedback and marketing insight as a free bonus.

Like I wrote yesterday, I will be promoting this offer for another week.

But if you decide you want to jump in by the end of today, at 12 midnight PST, I will do two things:

1. I will put you into the Skool community as soon as I open it up on Monday

2. I’ll give you a special mystery bonus to say thanks. This special mystery bonus is about a strategy that’s not covered in the list-building blueprint I will be following… but a strategy that I’ve used in the past to offset the cost of running ads, and in some cases even eliminate it

Of course, don’t decide now if want to join me or not. Simply decide if this sounds interesting to you, and and if it does, hit reply and say so. I can get you the full details, and you can decide then, and maybe even in time for today’s mini-deadline.

Sunday morning startler

This morning I went out for my usual walk, and as I stepped out the elevator at the bottom of my building, I felt something odd inside my shoe, right at the toe.

Probably just my sock crumpled up? Or maybe a pebble?

I sat down on the stairs to investigate.

I took off my shoe and shook it. Nothing fell out.

I looked inside. Nothing.

I reached to straighten out my sock and— GAH!! — I instinctively threw something away.

In the dim light of the building lobby, I took a closer look at what I had just touched and tossed.

It turned out to be a live gecko that had been stuck to my sock. It must have crawled into my shoe during the night and gone to sleep.

It’s no big mystery how the gecko got inside my shoe.

The Mediterranean house gecko is endemic to the Barcelona area.

I’ve often seen the little guys inching their way up the outside walls of my building.

For the record, I live on the 9th floor.

It must take a whole evening for a gecko to slowly make his way up the wall to where I live. But I guess it doesn’t matter to them. They like high places… time is passing anyhow… and so they might as well climb.

Now that I’ve opened up this fascinating topic, let me go full-gecko:

You might know the Geico Gecko slogan, “15 minutes could save you 15% on your car insurance.”

Well, I got an update for you:

“$10-$15 could get you 10-15 new subscribers on your email list.”

For the past few days, I’ve been promoting a new offer with that promise. The background:

I will be building up a new list I’ve launched via paid ads, starting at $10-$15 a day, and aiming to get 10-15 subscribers for that money.

If you like, you can follow the same process I will be following (a course by an expert list builder, which costs $495), plus you can get my copywriting feedback and marketing insight as a free bonus.

10-15 new subscribers a day is not exactly a rocket launch.

But like my shoe gecko shows, a bit of progress, repeated consistently, gets you up to high places, and sooner than you might think.

Like I wrote yesterday, I will be promoting this offer for another week.

But if you decide you want to jump in by the end of today, at 12 midnight PST, I will do two things:

1. I will put you into the Skool community as soon as I open it up on Monday

2. I’ll give you a special mystery bonus to say thanks. This special mystery bonus is about a strategy that’s not covered in the list-building blueprint I will be following… but a strategy that I’ve used in the past to offset the cost of running ads, and in one case even eliminate it

Of course, don’t decide now if want to join me or not. Simply decide if this sounds interesting to you, and and if it does, hit reply and say so. I can get you the full details, and you can decide then, and maybe even in time for today’s mini-deadline.

A favor?

Would you do me a favor?

As you might know, for the past few days I’ve been promoting a new “work alongside me offer.”

In short, I’ve launched a new list and I’m starting to grow it by paying for ads. I’m inviting people who want to follow the same process I’m following to work alongside me and to grow their own list, while getting copywriting feedback and marketing input from me.

A part of how I will deliver this feedback and input will be via a Skool community.

Which brings me to the favor:

I will be promoting this “work alongside me” offer for another week.

But I want to open up the Skool community early, and start interacting with people and giving them feedback. The reason for this is both to take the load off that’s sure to come with a bunch of people signing up at the final deadline… and also to get a sense of where people are at, and inform the marketing I will do during this last week.

So if you’ve been interested in this offer but you have been holding off, would you let me know now?

I can then share the full details of how this “work alongside me” offer will work. And if you decide to join early, by tomorrow, Sunday, at 12 midnight PST, instead of waiting for final deadline in one week’s time, then I will do two things:

1. I will put you into the Skool community as soon as I open it up on Monday

2. I’ll give you a special mystery bonus to say thanks. This special mystery bonus is about a strategy that’s not covered in the list-building blueprint I will be following… but a strategy that I’ve used in the past to offset the cost of running ads, and in one case even eliminate it

So if you’re interested in this offer, would you let me know? I’ll be checking my inbox throughout the weekend, but maybe it’s best to do it now, while it’s fresh on your mind. Thanks in advance.

The reputation benefit of a bigger list

My own email list — this one, about marketing and copywriting and influence — is tiny. But some of the people on my list have much bigger lists than I do.

One such person is Russell Nohelty. Russell is a bestselling author of fantasy books and comics. He also writes about the business of writing, and he runs Writer MBA, a membership program to help writers make more money.

Russell’s audience on Substack is over 70,000 people.

Last week, when I started writing about my plan to grow a new list via paid traffic, Russell reached out. He offered to share his experiences spending $30k since February to grow his audience.

Russell and I got on a call this past Monday. It was interesting and valuable throughout, but one thing in particular stuck with me, something Russell said about the reputation benefits of various list sizes. In Russell’s words:

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There were a couple of break points where everything felt different.

10,000 emails felt different than 8,000.

30,000 emails felt way different than 20,000 emails.

From my experience, talking to other people, 50,000, 80,000 — there’s different break points where people go, “Oh you’ve got 45,000 people on your list! Yes, I want to get in front of them!”

Promotions become easier. When you’re a Dream 100 guy like I am, you can reach out to almost anyone and be like, “Hey, do you wanna be in front of my 35,000, 45,000, whatever the number is, people.”

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I can imagine that somebody somewhere has just crossed his arms and frowned. “Well, I’d much rather have a small but mighty list than a stupid big list that doesn’t read or buy from me.”

Sure. It’s my policy as well with my own list. That said, you can have both a large and a mighty list — Russell does.

But here’s the sneaky thing:

All of us constantly use mental shortcuts to evaluate the people around us and the choices we have.

On the one hand, a large list is an immensely valuable asset for its own sake.

On the other hand, a large list is also an immensely valuable asset because of its reputation benefit. Because people treat you differently if you get one. Because opportunities open up which would be closed otherwise.

All that’s to say, if you got a business, and a list, but it’s not quite going how you’d like… then the solution might just be to get a bigger list. Maybe if you can make it to the next break point, like Russell says above, then your problems now might just go poof.

Which brings me back to my plan to grow a new list via paid traffic.

If you like, you can join me. You can build up your own list using the same process I will be following, and get my copywriting feedback and marketing input while we work alongside each other.

I can tell you right now that the investment for this offer is $497 to get started, plus $10-$15 a day for ads. If that doesn’t deter you, hit reply and tell me so, and I can give you more information.